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	<title>Comments on: The Real Reason Behind Amish&#8217;s &#8220;The Magic Bullet System&#8221; Revealled</title>
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		<title>By: TroyNotes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TroyNotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally Norman,

It&#039;s amazing how much bullshit and misdirection there is isn&#039;t there?  I totally TOTALLY understand how you feel, I oscillate between disgusted, livid and entertained by these bullshit jockeys.    One of the reasons I started doing NoBullsh!t reviews, because this industry needs some accountability and people need to be warned against bad products.  So much preying on the same people over and over again.  The sad part for me is if I call these gurus on their bullshit I can lose the ability to promote from me. *sigh*

On the other hand, that launch did supposedly $4.3 Million dollars. So guess that hype pays extremely well.

I have access to the Magic Bullet tool and training, I just haven&#039;t had a chance to get into it yet due to being busy on product launches.  The reason I purchased it was not necessarily for the CPA networks, but rather a tool that can quickly automate silo sites with sound keyword research AND automate the PPC bidding is worth $3K in time and crew savings alone in profit potential.  I&#039;m really not that interested in CPA networks affiliates it&#039;s always chasing after money before everybody clones you.     The core logic of the tool automating so much done by hand is sadly inevitable.  I know as I have some tooling being built (for myself) that does much of that too...that&#039;s another reason I wanted to check it out to see how it compares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally Norman,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how much bullshit and misdirection there is isn&#8217;t there?  I totally TOTALLY understand how you feel, I oscillate between disgusted, livid and entertained by these bullshit jockeys.    One of the reasons I started doing NoBullsh!t reviews, because this industry needs some accountability and people need to be warned against bad products.  So much preying on the same people over and over again.  The sad part for me is if I call these gurus on their bullshit I can lose the ability to promote from me. *sigh*</p>
<p>On the other hand, that launch did supposedly $4.3 Million dollars. So guess that hype pays extremely well.</p>
<p>I have access to the Magic Bullet tool and training, I just haven&#8217;t had a chance to get into it yet due to being busy on product launches.  The reason I purchased it was not necessarily for the CPA networks, but rather a tool that can quickly automate silo sites with sound keyword research AND automate the PPC bidding is worth $3K in time and crew savings alone in profit potential.  I&#8217;m really not that interested in CPA networks affiliates it&#8217;s always chasing after money before everybody clones you.     The core logic of the tool automating so much done by hand is sadly inevitable.  I know as I have some tooling being built (for myself) that does much of that too&#8230;that&#8217;s another reason I wanted to check it out to see how it compares.</p>
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		<title>By: norman Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>norman Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 01:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am sick of the way these guys operate for selling and hyping i think they should be stopped,period,the magic bullet will have to prove its self,sic of the B/S Norm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am sick of the way these guys operate for selling and hyping i think they should be stopped,period,the magic bullet will have to prove its self,sic of the B/S Norm</p>
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		<title>By: TroyNotes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TroyNotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shane,  curious which launchboards? 

Part of Kern&#039;s goal, is to do like $100Million in launches for his private clients in the next few years. (ka-ching!) So his focus may not be on a single launch. I&#039;m sure that Amish is happy with the numbers , million dollar payday (even after affiliates) is always worth it.  They was an upsell on the product for a $297/mo &#039;mastermind&#039; group, so that too is a another ~1Million business.

I do agree that the Magic Bullet is likely a 700-1000 person.  I imagine that they will reopen again to people post the sell out saying there was such a demand that they figured out a way to accept a few more, but these people will have to get the DVD of the training (to not piss off the people who got in early) and not get some of the action like the so called &quot;100 million&quot; rollodex.

 The goal for Amish and Jay is to create a CPA network, so they of course want as many people as possible (this is the most clever part of all, having people pay them a million dollars to have them train their employees)   BUT want them trained and have to do so in a strategic manner. Given the focus on this product right now (the buzz)  the people who didn&#039;t make it in  are going to be taking a wait and see attitude on the feedback/training and whether or not the system does what it says it does.

I still think it&#039;s worth it for me to have the early access, I&#039;m not interested in CPA so much but the tool itself is fairly cheap, to setup silo sites, automanage campaigns etc.  Easy to spend that much on employees and PPC management in no time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shane,  curious which launchboards? </p>
<p>Part of Kern&#8217;s goal, is to do like $100Million in launches for his private clients in the next few years. (ka-ching!) So his focus may not be on a single launch. I&#8217;m sure that Amish is happy with the numbers , million dollar payday (even after affiliates) is always worth it.  They was an upsell on the product for a $297/mo &#8216;mastermind&#8217; group, so that too is a another ~1Million business.</p>
<p>I do agree that the Magic Bullet is likely a 700-1000 person.  I imagine that they will reopen again to people post the sell out saying there was such a demand that they figured out a way to accept a few more, but these people will have to get the DVD of the training (to not piss off the people who got in early) and not get some of the action like the so called &#8220;100 million&#8221; rollodex.</p>
<p> The goal for Amish and Jay is to create a CPA network, so they of course want as many people as possible (this is the most clever part of all, having people pay them a million dollars to have them train their employees)   BUT want them trained and have to do so in a strategic manner. Given the focus on this product right now (the buzz)  the people who didn&#8217;t make it in  are going to be taking a wait and see attitude on the feedback/training and whether or not the system does what it says it does.</p>
<p>I still think it&#8217;s worth it for me to have the early access, I&#8217;m not interested in CPA so much but the tool itself is fairly cheap, to setup silo sites, automanage campaigns etc.  Easy to spend that much on employees and PPC management in no time!</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, definitely.
There&#039;s an announcement on the launchboards that is very clear about Kern&#039;s involvement.

Though it also says that Kern wants to outdo his previous record for a successful launch which makes me think that the Magic Bullet might not be limited at all.
They definitely need to get more than 1.5 Million to beat any kind of record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, definitely.<br />
There&#8217;s an announcement on the launchboards that is very clear about Kern&#8217;s involvement.</p>
<p>Though it also says that Kern wants to outdo his previous record for a successful launch which makes me think that the Magic Bullet might not be limited at all.<br />
They definitely need to get more than 1.5 Million to beat any kind of record.</p>
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		<title>By: TroyNotes</title>
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		<dc:creator>TroyNotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, Frank is always a joy to watch in action.  This follows his Mass Control formula to the letter, and it feels much like his Mass Control 2.0 launch last year.

He recently started a private consulting practice for helping people launch, and I think Amish is the first of his clients ...they pay him $100K plus like 1.5-3% of the end monies. I may take him up on his services for a product I&#039;m launching in a few months.  Watching this launch gets me a better understanding of how to structure the pitch.

I just got the receipt from Amish&#039;s team saying I&#039;m in. Woo hoo!  I got in on the early bird list in yet another nice trick of &quot;testing the servers&quot; excuse 10-12 hours before the official &#039;live date&#039;.Fit&#039;s into Frank&#039;s constant theme of do the unexpected.  $2997 is expensive on one hand, but on the other it&#039;s less than I&#039;ve paid for classes at college + books and got nothing out of :)

 I happened to be online as my team is online at this hour so I&#039;m usually a late nighter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, Frank is always a joy to watch in action.  This follows his Mass Control formula to the letter, and it feels much like his Mass Control 2.0 launch last year.</p>
<p>He recently started a private consulting practice for helping people launch, and I think Amish is the first of his clients &#8230;they pay him $100K plus like 1.5-3% of the end monies. I may take him up on his services for a product I&#8217;m launching in a few months.  Watching this launch gets me a better understanding of how to structure the pitch.</p>
<p>I just got the receipt from Amish&#8217;s team saying I&#8217;m in. Woo hoo!  I got in on the early bird list in yet another nice trick of &#8220;testing the servers&#8221; excuse 10-12 hours before the official &#8216;live date&#8217;.Fit&#8217;s into Frank&#8217;s constant theme of do the unexpected.  $2997 is expensive on one hand, but on the other it&#8217;s less than I&#8217;ve paid for classes at college + books and got nothing out of <img src='http://www.troynotes.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p> I happened to be online as my team is online at this hour so I&#8217;m usually a late nighter.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 07:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure is one hell of a launch they&#039;ve got going.

I highly doubt that they&#039;re really going to cut it off at just 500 people, though. While I can imagine that the scarcity is not faked, I&#039;m pretty sure we&#039;ll see a &quot;second chance&quot; follow up.

But I have to say, apart from anything else, it&#039;s very interesting to observe such a masterful launch.

Cheers,
Shane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure is one hell of a launch they&#8217;ve got going.</p>
<p>I highly doubt that they&#8217;re really going to cut it off at just 500 people, though. While I can imagine that the scarcity is not faked, I&#8217;m pretty sure we&#8217;ll see a &#8220;second chance&#8221; follow up.</p>
<p>But I have to say, apart from anything else, it&#8217;s very interesting to observe such a masterful launch.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Shane</p>
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