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		<title>3 ways to get those pricey Internet Marketing Guru courses for 1/2-1/20th of the price</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 04:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a person starting out in Internet Marketing, especially to those not used to it, it&#8217;s easy to be taken back by how much an alternate universe Internet Marketing (and making money in general) is.
1) how much all these courses cost, it seems like it&#8217;s every other week that some $2k software is being released [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>As a person starting out in Internet Marketing, especially to those not used to it, it&#8217;s easy to be taken back by how much an alternate universe Internet Marketing (and making money in general) is.</p>
<p>1) how much all these courses cost, it seems like it&#8217;s every other week that some $2k software is being released as the next cure for all evils.  To be fair my local community college also charges $1K for a course but these are taught live, they are instructor lead and there is homework and tests to some form of accountability to get stuff done. In contrast many gurus are clearly knowledgeable but horrible inconsiderate teachers, who are often rarely if ever accessible to answer questions.</p>
<p>2) how much there is to know, SEO, PPC, Social Media, Copyriting, Domaining, Product Creation, Outsourcing, Incorporation, Finances, the list goes on an on.  When you first get into the game and even a year later there is quite an astounding amount that it takes to have a business that has reached it&#8217;s full potential.  The good news of course is you don&#8217;t really need but a fraction of all this to get going.</p>
<p>Anyway, I generally think that it&#8217;s a bad trap to get into the mega course de jour, especially when that same money could be getting products or websites on the market.    But not to worry took part of it too, had I had the ability to do things differently I totally would llike the following.  </p>
<p>So here are two tips to get that money to work IN your business rather than on your self.</p>
<p><strong>1) Share the price with a friend</strong><br />
One is get a mastermind, preferrably local.  Buy the courses under a shared identity, and pool them in a learning library.  Better yet watch the courses together and talk about them.</p>
<p><strong>2) Go Secondhand</strong><br />
Pick it up used.  There is a thriving market for, often by people who have been suckered into spending $2K who would like to get some of that back.  Just do a search on ebay for any of your favorite Guru&#8217;s, bet you&#8217;ll find something. </p>
<p>A valid warning is there are certainly courses that don&#8217;t age that well, e.g. I wouldn&#8217;t buy a book on Facebook from two years ago, too much has changed.  But things &#8220;classics&#8221; from big name gurus like Frank Kern, Eben Pagan, that are delivered on DVD more often than not do not age that much.   Don&#8217;t buy the hype about it being completely written from the ground up, if the course content is that brittle so will your business be by building on top of it.  Just like a car, last years model will still get you where you need to go.</p>
<p><strong>3) Get to know these Guru&#8217;s better.</strong><br />
Spend more time searching guru&#8217;s blogs and cross promotions, if necessary stalk them online.   Here they give away a ton of free content that will get you 70-80% of what they put in these premium products.  Odds are most are on yearly cycles.  PLF1.0 becomes PLF2.0 becomes PLF3.0. Names and metaphor change the core concepts do not.   Often by looking at last years blog entries you can find tons of useful info for free.  Do enough research often the gurus leak enough useful but incomplete so that there really isn&#8217;t that much left to be incomplete.</p>
<p><strong>4) Just don&#8217;t buy it.</strong><br />
Have to bring up this option. Your life will not likely implode or business fail or success typicaly by missing one of these products and odds are you can find the same information in a $2K course in a $200<br />
course somewhere on clickbank.   Quite the opposite by unsubscribing from the constant onslaught you might get things done.   Having watched the gurus for a year, you may have finally found out, and they don&#8217;t hide this.  They are a vampire mafia of sorts, they meet a few times a year to figure out what is working, coordinate and make sure that their launches don&#8217;t compete with each others, you are the cows they milk on a schedule for a very lucrative business that is often ungrounded in anything near reality as defined by the you can do this too.  For all the value in each of these courses, if you live paralized life and never</p>

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		<title>Eben Pagan vs. the Crooked Televangelists</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 09:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part 4 of 5 from the great interview between Eben Pagan and Frank Kern up on Kern&#8217;s blog
Eben says (paraphrased):

&#8220;We have a responsibility to beat the Crooked Televangelists&#8230;they are everywhere&#8230;&#8221;

And they are out to get YOU and your customers.
Ever seen that Crooked Televangelist on TV?  &#8220;Gawwd says, send me your Money&#8221; (and I&#8217;ll offer no [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><strong>Part 4 of 5 from the great interview between <a href="http://masscontrolsite.com/blog/wp-trackback.php?p=50">Eben Pagan and Frank Kern up on Kern&#8217;s blog</a></strong></p>
<h2>Eben says (paraphrased):</h2>
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<h2>&#8220;We have a responsibility to beat the Crooked Televangelists&#8230;they are everywhere&#8230;&#8221;</h2>
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<p>And they are out to get YOU and your customers.</p>
<p>Ever seen that Crooked Televangelist on TV?  &#8220;Gawwd says, send me your Money&#8221; (and I&#8217;ll offer no value in return)&#8221;. They are in every niche; they suck money from people and offer nothing of real value. This is our competition.</p>
<p>Reminds me of the farting preacher.<br />
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<p><strong>Eben (paraphrased):</strong> &#8220;we need to use every persuasive technique we can, as we need to beat the crooked televangelist as we are the ones delivering the real value.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.troynotes.com/frank-kern-stacking-the-cool-honda-style.html">Among those techniques are &#8220;stacking the cool&#8221; and &#8220;the Death Grip&#8221;, covered in part 5</a></p>
<p>But I wonder: where does  the line cross the unethical or unreasonable?  Jason Moffat has an interesting discussion  <a href="http://www.jasonmoffatt.com/internet-marketing/fake-it-til-you-make-it.html">on faking it till you make it is a bad thing.</a></p>
<p>What do you think?</p>

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		<title>A tale of two Cakes, why you should give away your best stuff &#8230;for FREE?!</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TroyNotes</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[ramp up and ramp down]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[This was inspired by the excellent talk between Frank Kern and Eben Pagan, the latter of whom has a mantra of giving away your best stuff for free. It&#8217;s obviously worked out well… To the tune of $25 Million a year business.
&#8220;If you want to keep something precious, throw away the key&#8221; -Sting
It&#8217;s counter intuitive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>This was inspired by <a href="http://masscontrolsite.com/blog/?p=50">the excellent talk between Frank Kern and Eben Pagan</a>, the latter of whom has a mantra of giving away your best stuff for free. It&#8217;s obviously worked out well… To the tune of $25 Million a year business.</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;If you want to keep something precious, throw away the key&#8221; -<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGb9H1kn6cI">Sting</a></em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s counter intuitive why giving the best for free can be the best thing for your business. Let&#8217;s delve in.</p>
<h2>A Tale of 2 Cakes</h2>
<p>Would you like to eat your cake first? I had a girlfriend who only ordered small dinner so we could splurge on dessert. I bet your customers are the same.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example to compare.  Say we are walking by the bakery section in the store, and there are <strong>2 parallel promotions, of 3 things: Cake, Whipped Cream and Milk,</strong> Each giving away 1 of them, with optional upsells for the others.</p>
<p>Keep in mind that what we sell things for have very little to do with the intrinsic costs.  So in this example,  a cake may not cost more than a glass of milk.   Especially in digitally delivered info products, the cost per copy almost doesn&#8217;t exist, digital milk costs the same as a digital cake to bake and consume.</p>
<h3>1) Eat Cake First (aka Ramp Down Perceived Value)</h3>
<ol>
<li>Fresh Baked Cake FREE  (worth $9)</li>
<li>Whipped Cream = $7</li>
<li>Glass of Milk   = $3</li>
</ol>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>TOTAL </strong>$10 for us, user gets $9 in value for $0.</p>
<h3>2) Eat Cake Last (aka Ramp Up Perceived Value)</h3>
<ol>
<li>Glass of Milk  FREE  (worth $3)</li>
<li>Whipped Cream = $7</li>
<li>Fresh Baked Cake= $9</li>
</ol>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>TOTAL </strong>$16 for us, user gets $3 in value for $0</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s compare the two from both the seller and customer’s perspective, on the ideal case of the customer having all the upsells.</p>
<p>From <em>a seller&#8217;s </em>perspective (omitting costs)</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Cake First:</strong> we net $10</li>
<li><strong>Cake Last: </strong>we net $16<span style="color: #008000;">&lt;&#8211; $6 more is clear winner for seller right? <strong>NOPE</strong><br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p>From <em>a buyer&#8217;s </em>perspective</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Cake First: </strong>out $10, get $9 in value <span style="color: #008000;">&lt;&#8211; clear winner for buyer right? <strong>YEP</strong><br />
</span></li>
<li><strong>Cake Last: </strong>out $16, get $3 in value.</li>
</ul>
<h2>Cake First Wins? but How&#8230; WTF?</h2>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, it&#8217;s not clear on first glance.  Along with the world is not the center of the universe, Cake Last is ”The Intuitively Obvious but Incorrect Assumption&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6CVj5IQkzk">a great quote from Jeff Hawkins</a> in his TED Talk.</p>
<p>On paper first blush as the store owner, $16 vs. $10 would seem to make Cake Last the clear loser, right? We are losing a potential profit $6 dollars per sale. Nope.  In Reality, <strong>there are ways more people who want cake first than they want milk first</strong>&#8230; Let&#8217;s be conservative and say 2:1 people prefer cake first vs. milk first. Let&#8217;s be conservative and say 2:1 people prefer cake first vs milk first.   If we only sold one of each at that ratio, Cake first would net us $20 vs. $16!  AND the customer is happier.<strong> <em>Cake first</em> is a win-win situation for both you and the buyer.   Do you see?<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Cake has a higher reciprocity value than Milk, people feel they owe you more and are more likely to take part in the upsells. Going up the stairs, from Milk to Whipped Cream: &#8220;would you like whipped cream with your cake?&#8221; is far more appealing than &#8220;would you like whipped cream with your milk?&#8221;</p>
<p>Also notice Cake Last, is a scarcity mindset and the Cake First is an abundance mindset.   This is a little known truth, but your market can sniff these cues better than a psychic or a first date.   <strong>People buy you and the results they think you have</strong> (that they think they will get), that you stand for, not just what you&#8217;re selling.    There was a great example Perry Belcher used talking about visiting a rabid fan&#8217;s house who had bought every one of Perry&#8217;s courses, a whole bookshelf full&#8230;and not opened a single one. It may not be the intended result, but Perry got paid and the customer was very happy. A win-win situation.</p>
<p>Look at it another way, your good customers are an extension of your voice; their opinions sway others you can&#8217;t reach.  They have blogs, friends, list and social networks.  Imagine you&#8217;re at a party telling a group about this cool friend you have. Who would you rather tell them about:  the rock star cake maker, or the milk delivery person?  Exact same thing will happen with your JV&#8217;s when talking to their lists about you. Give &#8216;em cake!</p>
<p>This is not to say that you sell crap on the BE, like worthless PLR stuff. Instead of a sharp ramp down in the perceived value like the example it might be a subtle slope or completely flat. If you are delivering a ton of value people will take it anyway they can, the point is to lead with your best foot forward&#8230;Give ‘em cake!</p>
<p>To take it a step further, Frank Kern said in a the recording, it would be an interesting thing to give away the entire course for free and then sell the exact same thing, he thinks it would still work.  I&#8217;m betting he&#8217;s probably right. In fact the Traffic Geyser 10&#215;10x4 system does this as well, knowing people won&#8217;t likely search out the other videos.  Hmm.. maybe I&#8217;ll try that with my next product.</p>
<h1><strong> Why giving your best away won&#8217;t hurt your sales</strong></h1>
<ol>
<li><strong>Attention is one of the rarest substances in the universe &#8211; </strong>anybody who has kids, students or new businesses knows this. People are in different headspaces when casually browsing the web from an email link than studying a course intensely. So much like that person&#8217;s name you just can&#8217;t remember, it may as well be gone.</li>
<li><strong>It takes several times before things sink in, </strong>especially on really new or difficult information. They could easily see a Free thing and forget about it&#8230;even multiple times.</li>
<li><strong>People easily dismiss the free stuff, </strong>hell Frank Kern has probably $4k worth of potential product material in his blog today most people don&#8217;t know about. They don&#8217;t know how to look for it (admittedly, Frank does not make it easy to find). Similarly, I know Jeff Walker&#8217;s material has enough that just the free has given people enough information to do a successful Launch without buying the PLF course. Most people don&#8217;t take advantage of this.</li>
<li><strong>Many people won&#8217;t even complete more than 10% of the product</strong> so aren&#8217;t likely to notice overlaps with the free stuff.</li>
<li><strong>People want the guided tour, </strong>or live experience. This is the same reason why people go to concerts despite them sounding worse and see less than a DVD recording of the same for a fraction of the cost.  A free trailer with all the best parts is just getting them excited. So go get those excited&#8230;Give ‘em cake!</li>
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